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Unusual Weather this Weekend - Strong NOAA Advisories

Discussion in 'Archives - Yahoo Canyons Group' started by Steve Newcomb, Aug 29, 2008.

  1. Once in awhile an unusual set of weather conditions form creating unusual events. Throw this on top of one of the nation's busiest holiday weekends. A fast moving cold front coming down from the Pacific Northwest will combine with monsoon moisture coming up from the south to create the potential for large amounts of rainfall in southern Utah (in addition to a lot of other places).

    Stay out of the canyons this weekend, or if you are hardcore severe weather seekers, be sure you know the Emperor's Slot Hanging Bivey Technique to be able to handle the worst.

    Steve Newcomb Tucson, AZ

    P.S. Don't have to take my word. Weather advisory below from Springdale at 9:43a Fri Aug 29th. Paragraph brought to the top for emphasis.



    ANYONE PLANNING OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES ACROSS SOUTHERN UTAH...PARTICULARLY LOCATIONS PRONE TO FLASH FLOODING SUCH AS SLOT CANYONS AND SLICK ROCK AREAS...SHOULD BE AWARE THAT THE THREAT FOR FLASH FLOODING WILL BE ELEVATED THROUGHOUT THE WEEKEND. BE PREPARED TO TAKE ACTION SHOULD FLASH FLOODING DEVELOP.

    SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SALT LAKE CITY UT 335 AM MDT FRI AUG 29 2008

    UTZ001>016-019>021-517-518-WYZ021-292200- CACHE VALLEY/UTAH PORTION-NORTHERN WASATCH FRONT- SALT LAKE AND TOOELE VALLEYS-SOUTHERN WASATCH FRONT- GREAT SALT LAKE DESERT AND MOUNTAINS-WASATCH MOUNTAIN VALLEYS- WASATCH MOUNTAINS I-80 NORTH-WASATCH MOUNTAINS SOUTH OF I-80- WESTERN UINTA MOUNTAINS-WASATCH PLATEAU/BOOK CLIFFS- WESTERN UINTA BASIN-CASTLE COUNTRY-SAN RAFAEL SWELL- SANPETE/SEVIER VALLEYS-WEST CENTRAL UTAH-SOUTHWEST UTAH- UTAHS DIXIE AND ZION NATIONAL PARK-SOUTH CENTRAL UTAH- GLEN CANYON RECREATION AREA/LAKE POWELL-CENTRAL MOUNTAINS- SOUTHERN MOUNTAINS-SOUTHWEST WYOMING- 335 AM MDT FRI AUG 29 2008

    ...BECOMING WET AND UNSEASONABLY COOL DURING THE UPCOMING HOLIDAY WEEKEND..

    A MOIST AND UNSEASONABLY COOL PACIFIC STORM SYSTEM WILL MOVE INTO THE GREAT BASIN DURING THE LATTER HALF OF THE UPCOMING HOLIDAY WEEKEND. WIDESPREAD SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS CAN BE EXPECTED BEGINNING SATURDAY AFTERNOON ACROSS SOUTHERN UTAH AS MONSOONAL MOISTURE SPREADS NORTHWARD INTO THE AREA. THIS MOISTURE WILL CONTINUE NORTH SATURDAY NIGHT...AND ENCOMPASS ALL OF UTAH AND SOUTHWEST WYOMING BY EARLY SUNDAY.

    AS THIS PACIFIC STORM SYSTEM APPROACHES THE AREA SUNDAY AND INTERACTS WITH THIS MOISTURE...SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS ARE EXPECTED TO BECOME FAIRLY WIDESPREAD ACROSS THE REGION. SOME OF THESE STORMS MAY BECOME STRONG AT TIMES...AND BE CAPABLE OF PRODUCING HEAVY RAINFALL.

    MUCH COOLER AIR WILL FILTER INTO NORTHERN AND CENTRAL UTAH...AS WELL AS SOUTHWEST WYOMING ON LABOR DAY...DROPPING SNOW LEVELS AS LOW AS 8000 FT BY EARLY EVENING. SOME ACCUMULATING SNOW CAN BE EXPECTED ABOVE THIS ELEVATION ACROSS THE HIGHER TERRAIN OF NORTHERN UTAH. AS THIS SYSTEM MOVES EAST OF THE REGION BY TUESDAY MORNING...CLEARING SKIES MAY ALLOW TEMPERATURES TO FALL BELOW FREEZING ACROSS SOME NORTHERN UTAH VALLEYS.

    THOSE PLANNING OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES ACROSS NORTHERN UTAH DURING THE UPCOMING LABOR DAY WEEKEND ARE STRONGLY ENCOURAGED TO MONITOR THE WEATHER...AND BE PREPARED FOR WET CONDITIONS BEGINNING SUNDAY...AS WELL AS MUCH COOLER TEMPERATURES ON LABOR DAY...PARTICULARLY ACROSS THE HIGHER TERRAIN.
  2. adkramoo

    adkramoo Guest

    Thanx Steve. Here is the link http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/slc/flashflood/ Seems Saturday will be OK The link is clickable on the forums home page also http://groups.yahoo.com/group/canyons/?yguid=56590157 R

    --- In Yahoo Canyons Group, "Steve Newcomb" <sanewcomb@...> wrote:
    Once in awhile an unusual set of weather conditions form creating > unusual events. Throw this on top of one of the nation's busiest > holiday weekends. A fast moving cold front coming down from the > Pacific Northwest will combine with monsoon moisture coming up from > the south to create the potential for large amounts of rainfall in > southern Utah (in addition to a lot of other places).
    Stay out of the canyons this weekend, or if you are hardcore severe > weather seekers, be sure you know the Emperor's Slot Hanging Bivey > Technique to be able to handle the worst.
    Steve Newcomb > Tucson, AZ
    P.S. Don't have to take my word. Weather advisory below from > Springdale at 9:43a Fri Aug 29th. Paragraph brought to the top for > emphasis.

    ANYONE PLANNING OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES ACROSS SOUTHERN > UTAH...PARTICULARLY LOCATIONS PRONE TO FLASH FLOODING SUCH AS > SLOT CANYONS AND SLICK ROCK AREAS...SHOULD BE AWARE THAT THE > THREAT FOR FLASH FLOODING WILL BE ELEVATED THROUGHOUT THE WEEKEND. > BE PREPARED TO TAKE ACTION SHOULD FLASH FLOODING DEVELOP.
    > SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT > NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SALT LAKE CITY UT > 335 AM MDT FRI AUG 29 2008
    UTZ001>016-019>021-517-518-WYZ021-292200- > CACHE VALLEY/UTAH PORTION-NORTHERN WASATCH FRONT- > SALT LAKE AND TOOELE VALLEYS-SOUTHERN WASATCH FRONT- > GREAT SALT LAKE DESERT AND MOUNTAINS-WASATCH MOUNTAIN VALLEYS- > WASATCH MOUNTAINS I-80 NORTH-WASATCH MOUNTAINS SOUTH OF I-80- > WESTERN UINTA MOUNTAINS-WASATCH PLATEAU/BOOK CLIFFS- > WESTERN UINTA BASIN-CASTLE COUNTRY-SAN RAFAEL SWELL- > SANPETE/SEVIER VALLEYS-WEST CENTRAL UTAH-SOUTHWEST UTAH- > UTAHS DIXIE AND ZION NATIONAL PARK-SOUTH CENTRAL UTAH- > GLEN CANYON RECREATION AREA/LAKE POWELL-CENTRAL MOUNTAINS- > SOUTHERN MOUNTAINS-SOUTHWEST WYOMING- > 335 AM MDT FRI AUG 29 2008
    ...BECOMING WET AND UNSEASONABLY COOL DURING THE UPCOMING HOLIDAY > WEEKEND..
    A MOIST AND UNSEASONABLY COOL PACIFIC STORM SYSTEM WILL MOVE INTO > THE GREAT BASIN DURING THE LATTER HALF OF THE UPCOMING HOLIDAY > WEEKEND. WIDESPREAD SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS CAN BE EXPECTED > BEGINNING SATURDAY AFTERNOON ACROSS SOUTHERN UTAH AS MONSOONAL > MOISTURE SPREADS NORTHWARD INTO THE AREA. THIS MOISTURE WILL > CONTINUE NORTH SATURDAY NIGHT...AND ENCOMPASS ALL OF UTAH AND > SOUTHWEST WYOMING BY EARLY SUNDAY.
    AS THIS PACIFIC STORM SYSTEM APPROACHES THE AREA SUNDAY AND > INTERACTS WITH THIS MOISTURE...SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS ARE > EXPECTED TO BECOME FAIRLY WIDESPREAD ACROSS THE REGION. SOME OF > THESE STORMS MAY BECOME STRONG AT TIMES...AND BE CAPABLE OF > PRODUCING HEAVY RAINFALL.
    MUCH COOLER AIR WILL FILTER INTO NORTHERN AND CENTRAL UTAH...AS > WELL AS SOUTHWEST WYOMING ON LABOR DAY...DROPPING SNOW LEVELS AS > LOW AS 8000 FT BY EARLY EVENING. SOME ACCUMULATING SNOW CAN BE > EXPECTED ABOVE THIS ELEVATION ACROSS THE HIGHER TERRAIN OF > NORTHERN UTAH. AS THIS SYSTEM MOVES EAST OF THE REGION BY TUESDAY > MORNING...CLEARING SKIES MAY ALLOW TEMPERATURES TO FALL BELOW > FREEZING ACROSS SOME NORTHERN UTAH VALLEYS.
    THOSE PLANNING OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES ACROSS NORTHERN UTAH DURING THE > UPCOMING LABOR DAY WEEKEND ARE STRONGLY ENCOURAGED TO MONITOR THE > WEATHER...AND BE PREPARED FOR WET CONDITIONS BEGINNING > SUNDAY...AS WELL AS MUCH COOLER TEMPERATURES ON LABOR > DAY...PARTICULARLY ACROSS THE HIGHER TERRAIN. >
  3. Hazardous weather condition(s): Hazardous Weather OutlookSpecial Weather StatementThis Afternoon: Sunny, with a high near 83. Southwest wind around 5 mph. Tonight: Mostly clear, with a low around 44. North northwest wind at 9 mph becoming west southwest. Saturday: A 40 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms after noon. Partly cloudy, with a high near 83. West southwest wind 11 to 17 mph becoming south southeast. Saturday Night: A 50 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 50. Southwest wind between 13 and 17 mph. Sunday: Showers and thunderstorms likely, mainly after noon. Cloudy, with a high near 66. Breezy, with a west southwest wind 17 to 20 mph increasing to between 26 and 29 mph. Winds could gust as high as 43 mph. Chance of precipitation is 70%.Sunday Night: Showers and thunderstorms likely. Mostly cloudy and breezy, with a low around 44. Chance of precipitation is 70%.Labor Day: Showers and thunderstorms likely. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 62. Chance of precipitation is 60%.Monday Night: A chance of showers and thunderstorms. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 38. Tuesday: Mostly sunny, with a high near 69. Tuesday Night: Partly cloudy, with a low around 39. Wednesday: Mostly sunny, with a high near 71. Wednesday Night: Partly cloudy, with a low around 41. Thursday: Mostly sunny, with a high near 72. Looks like the violent collision with the cold front will appear in northern/central Utah, probably Sunday evening. Snow above 8,000'.

    However, be prepared for any contingency,

    bruce from bryce



    To: canyons@yahoogroups.comFrom: adkramoo@aol.comDate: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:11:51 &#43;0000Subject: [from Canyons Group] Re: Unusual Weather this Weekend - Strong NOAA Advisories



    Thanx Steve.Here is the <a href="linkhttp://www.wrh.noaa.gov/slc/flashflood/Seems">linkhttp://www.wrh.noaa.gov/slc/flashflood/Seems</a> Saturday will be OKThe link is clickable on the forums home page <a href="alsohttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/canyons/?yguid=56590157R---">alsohttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/canyons/?yguid=56590157R---</a> In Yahoo Canyons Group, "Steve Newcomb" <sanewcomb@...> wrote:>> Once in awhile an unusual set of weather conditions form creating> unusual events. Throw this on top of one of the nation's busiest> holiday weekends. A fast moving cold front coming down from the> Pacific Northwest will combine with monsoon moisture coming up from> the south to create the potential for large amounts of rainfall in> southern Utah (in addition to a lot of other places).
    Stay out of the canyons this weekend, or if you are hardcore severe> weather seekers, be sure you know the Emperor's Slot Hanging Bivey> Technique to be able to handle the worst.
    Steve Newcomb> Tucson, AZ
    P.S. Don't have to take my word. Weather advisory below from> Springdale at 9:43a Fri Aug 29th. Paragraph brought to the top for> emphasis.

    ANYONE PLANNING OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES ACROSS SOUTHERN> UTAH...PARTICULARLY LOCATIONS PRONE TO FLASH FLOODING SUCH AS> SLOT CANYONS AND SLICK ROCK AREAS...SHOULD BE AWARE THAT THE> THREAT FOR FLASH FLOODING WILL BE ELEVATED THROUGHOUT THE WEEKEND.> BE PREPARED TO TAKE ACTION SHOULD FLASH FLOODING DEVELOP.
    > SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT> NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SALT LAKE CITY UT> 335 AM MDT FRI AUG 29 2008
    UTZ001>016-019>021-517-518-WYZ021-292200-> CACHE VALLEY/UTAH PORTION-NORTHERN WASATCH FRONT-> SALT LAKE AND TOOELE VALLEYS-SOUTHERN WASATCH FRONT-> GREAT SALT LAKE DESERT AND MOUNTAINS-WASATCH MOUNTAIN VALLEYS-> WASATCH MOUNTAINS I-80 NORTH-WASATCH MOUNTAINS SOUTH OF I-80-> WESTERN UINTA MOUNTAINS-WASATCH PLATEAU/BOOK CLIFFS-> WESTERN UINTA BASIN-CASTLE COUNTRY-SAN RAFAEL SWELL-> SANPETE/SEVIER VALLEYS-WEST CENTRAL UTAH-SOUTHWEST UTAH-> UTAHS DIXIE AND ZION NATIONAL PARK-SOUTH CENTRAL UTAH-> GLEN CANYON RECREATION AREA/LAKE POWELL-CENTRAL MOUNTAINS-> SOUTHERN MOUNTAINS-SOUTHWEST WYOMING-> 335 AM MDT FRI AUG 29 2008
    ...BECOMING WET AND UNSEASONABLY COOL DURING THE UPCOMING HOLIDAY> WEEKEND..
    A MOIST AND UNSEASONABLY COOL PACIFIC STORM SYSTEM WILL MOVE INTO> THE GREAT BASIN DURING THE LATTER HALF OF THE UPCOMING HOLIDAY> WEEKEND. WIDESPREAD SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS CAN BE EXPECTED> BEGINNING SATURDAY AFTERNOON ACROSS SOUTHERN UTAH AS MONSOONAL> MOISTURE SPREADS NORTHWARD INTO THE AREA. THIS MOISTURE WILL> CONTINUE NORTH SATURDAY NIGHT...AND ENCOMPASS ALL OF UTAH AND> SOUTHWEST WYOMING BY EARLY SUNDAY.
    AS THIS PACIFIC STORM SYSTEM APPROACHES THE AREA SUNDAY AND> INTERACTS WITH THIS MOISTURE...SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS ARE> EXPECTED TO BECOME FAIRLY WIDESPREAD ACROSS THE REGION. SOME OF> THESE STORMS MAY BECOME STRONG AT TIMES...AND BE CAPABLE OF> PRODUCING HEAVY RAINFALL.
    MUCH COOLER AIR WILL FILTER INTO NORTHERN AND CENTRAL UTAH...AS> WELL AS SOUTHWEST WYOMING ON LABOR DAY...DROPPING SNOW LEVELS AS> LOW AS 8000 FT BY EARLY EVENING. SOME ACCUMULATING SNOW CAN BE> EXPECTED ABOVE THIS ELEVATION ACROSS THE HIGHER TERRAIN OF> NORTHERN UTAH. AS THIS SYSTEM MOVES EAST OF THE REGION BY TUESDAY> MORNING...CLEARING SKIES MAY ALLOW TEMPERATURES TO FALL BELOW> FREEZING ACROSS SOME NORTHERN UTAH VALLEYS.
    THOSE PLANNING OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES ACROSS NORTHERN UTAH DURING THE> UPCOMING LABOR DAY WEEKEND ARE STRONGLY ENCOURAGED TO MONITOR THE> WEATHER...AND BE PREPARED FOR WET CONDITIONS BEGINNING> SUNDAY...AS WELL AS MUCH COOLER TEMPERATURES ON LABOR> DAY...PARTICULARLY ACROSS THE HIGHER TERRAIN.>





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  4. be sure you know the Emperor's Slot Hanging Bivey > Technique to be able to handle the worst. >

    This a joke or serious? Obviously I'm not taking a portaledge on my next canyon, but if anyone has used an improvised hanging bivey to elude a flash flood or has useful tips (or gear carried) for such a method, I'd love to hear about it.

    I seem to recall hearing a long time ago about a caver spending an extended amount of time hanging by their harness on a rope because they were in need of rescue, free hanging. I think this resulted in circulation problems when they finally got their weight off their harness, but I don't have to the details, so I hesitate to speculate on the exact consequences. Anyone have some more detail on consequences of hanging in your harness for a long time?

    Lars
  5. adkramoo

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  6. Sati Shah

    Sati Shah Guest

  7. Quite the story, and nice to watch the video after reading about the epic. Thanks. Lars

    --- In Yahoo Canyons Group, "adkramoo" <adkramoo@...> wrote:
    --- In Yahoo Canyons Group, "larsmpeterson" <larsmpeterson@> wrote:



    be sure you know the Emperor's Slot Hanging Bivey
    > Technique to be able to handle the worst.


    > This a joke or serious?
    Oh, it was plenty serious at the time. ;-) > http://www.canyoneeringusa.com/rave/0504night/index.htm
    > and the successful descent a month later
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtim4M-99QA
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