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Tech Tip: Answered Triple Clove Hitch

Discussion in 'Tech Tips and Gear' started by ratagonia, Sep 5, 2016.

  1. ratagonia

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    How to tie a triple clove hitch. (separate thread as I had a hard time finding it). A very clear video from Hank.

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  2. ratagonia

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  3. johnc

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    what do you find this knot most useful for? It seems like a good way to cinch very tightly around a slippery object, but is there a specific canyoneering situation for which you find it particularly applicable?
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  5. johnc

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    Ah ok. Is the triple better at keeping the knot in one position on the carabiner spine than a standard clove?
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  6. ratagonia

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    Yes. A regular clove hitch has a tendency to creep around the corner of the carabiner.

    Neon Bad Biner Block P5210578.JPG
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  7. John Styrnol

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    WOW! Never seen one do that before. Is it shifting during a rappel? Or over a few rappels?
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  8. ratagonia

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    I tied the block, and rappelled first. This is Ram's picture of the second to last person of 7 going.

    Happens all the time.

    Tom
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  9. Rapterman

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    Makes a good story, that photo.
    I am thinking the naked? guy is rinsing out his wetsuit after the block slipped while he was rapping...
    :D
  10. SafetyCube

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    I'm coming from a climbing background and trying to understand canyoneering specific techniques.
    Why is a clove used instead of a small overhand with a big biner? I get a hitch is easier (trivial really) to untie. Does the overhand have a high likelihood of getting stuck in a crevice?
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  11. ratagonia

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    The clove is smaller profile, less likely to snag on something or wedged in a crack. It is pretty much standard, though the Triple version is new-ish and being slow to catch on.

    Tom
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  12. Rapterman

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    Yes!
    I recommend getting instruction in biner blocks for canyoneering.
    It is NOT just about the block....
    :)
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    Thanks, Tom. Your presence here on the forum is much appreciated!
    I only have a few different canyons under my belt and not many of them needed special techniques. I'll be sure to use the triple clove when the situation calls for it.
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  14. Rapterman

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    Triple Clove :twothumbs:
    (All I ever use now)
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    Or just use constrictor knot for a carabiner block (bootboy taught me that knot via this forum).
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    Quicker, less bulky, more secure, and torque free. What's not to love?
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  18. Rapterman

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    Except that the triple clove is EASY to inspect...
    and the constrictor a BIT less so.
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    Id argue that that is not the case, especially once you familiarize yourself with it, like with any knot, hardware, or system. but by all means, once safety is considered, people should use the technique they are most comfortable with.
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    Bootboy,
    You sound so.....
    DIPLOMATIC
    How about something like: "clove hitchers are dinosaurs trying to perpetuate out-dated knots so they still feel relevent"
    Gotta snark it up, man
    We are counting on you!
    :D
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