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TR - Englestead and Birch-Zion, April 19, 2008

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  1. Christian

    Christian Guest

    We headed up Friday night to hit Englestead on Saturday the 19th. The North Fork Road was completely dry except for a small puddle at the cattle guard about 2 miles past the pavement. We spent the night at the old logging road between the two ranches described in Tom's description. We hiked down to Englestead Saturday morning. When we arrived at the bottom there was flowing water in the .5-1 cfs range, When we got to the big drop there was additional water (another .5-1 cfs) coming in form the drainage immediately above the drop point. This water was kicking out and freezing. The entire rap looked frozen with a massive ice cone at the bottom. There was a hole in the snow at the bottom where the chockstone for the second rap would be but after that it looked like you would be in a snow cave for awhile since the snow level was even with the bottom of the 300 footer. In any case we decided it would be a wet, cold affair, especially since the wind was howling and it was about 50 degrees. So we hiked back to the truck up at the North Fork Road, dropped the 300 footer, the wetsuits, and some other stuff and hiked over into Birch.

    Birch had about 1 cfs running in it which made the first couple of big raps pretty fun with face shots and spray kicking out. The canyon bottom had big piles of muddy snow here and there with one pile that made getting to the lip of the 10 foot downclimb exciting. A couple of wades and one icy thigh deep pool near Orderville. We went without wetsuits and were fine, whenever we got chilled we would just stop in a sunny section and warm up.

    Orderville was a mess. There are huge 3-4 foot deep snow drifts that are covered with 1-2 feet of mud. Slogging up Orderville was a slippery, muddy, wet mess and we only did it for 10 minutes. We found that hiking in the water was the easiest route. We took the Wild Wind Hollow exit. Nasty. Steep bushwacking with loose dirt for about 1.5 hours. There was absolutely no trail to follow. I'll never go up that ever again. We finally hit an old dirt road and followed that to the North Fork Road and hiked the final mile or two back to the truck. Grueling.

    Overall the trip was fun. Birch with water was nice and we didn't see or hear another group all day. Webbing was in good condition and had been replaced fairly recently.
  2. What a trip! We did birch last year in the warm, most of our group went down orderville and me and a friend went up WWH to be nice and get the car. I think we went a little further south because we were only about a quarter of a mile from the car. Next time I get to go down orderville. Would like to see pictures if you have them. Great trip. Bernell



    ----- Original Message ---- From: Christian nelsonccc@yahoo.com> To: Yahoo Canyons Group Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 9:57:55 AM Subject: [from Canyons Group] TR - Englestead and Birch-Zion, April 19, 2008

    We headed up Friday night to hit Englestead on Saturday the 19th. The North Fork Road was completely dry except for a small puddle at the cattle guard about 2 miles past the pavement. We spent the night at the old logging road between the two ranches described in Tom's description. We hiked down to Englestead Saturday morning. When we arrived at the bottom there was flowing water in the .5-1 cfs range, When we got to the big drop there was additional water (another .5-1 cfs) coming in form the drainage immediately above the drop point. This water was kicking out and freezing. The entire rap looked frozen with a massive ice cone at the bottom. There was a hole in the snow at the bottom where the chockstone for the second rap would be but after that it looked like you would be in a snow cave for awhile since the snow level was even with the bottom of the 300 footer. In any case we decided it would be a wet, cold affair, especially since the wind was howling and it was about 50 degrees. So we hiked back to the truck up at the North Fork Road, dropped the 300 footer, the wetsuits, and some other stuff and hiked over into Birch.

    Birch had about 1 cfs running in it which made the first couple of big raps pretty fun with face shots and spray kicking out. The canyon bottom had big piles of muddy snow here and there with one pile that made getting to the lip of the 10 foot downclimb exciting. A couple of wades and one icy thigh deep pool near Orderville. We went without wetsuits and were fine, whenever we got chilled we would just stop in a sunny section and warm up.

    Orderville was a mess. There are huge 3-4 foot deep snow drifts that are covered with 1-2 feet of mud. Slogging up Orderville was a slippery, muddy, wet mess and we only did it for 10 minutes. We found that hiking in the water was the easiest route. We took the Wild Wind Hollow exit. Nasty. Steep bushwacking with loose dirt for about 1.5 hours. There was absolutely no trail to follow. I'll never go up that ever again. We finally hit an old dirt road and followed that to the North Fork Road and hiked the final mile or two back to the truck. Grueling.

    Overall the trip was fun. Birch with water was nice and we didn't see or hear another group all day. Webbing was in good condition and had been replaced fairly recently.





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  3. Tom Jones

    Tom Jones Guest

    --- In Yahoo Canyons Group, "Christian" <nelsonccc@...> wrote:
    We headed up Friday night to hit Englestead on Saturday the 19th. > The North Fork Road was completely dry except for a small puddle at > the cattle guard about 2 miles past the pavement. We spent the night > at the old logging road between the two ranches described in Tom's > description.

    Thanks for the TR, oh mighty one. Good job on the re-load!

    Best not to stay THERE, which is fairly obvious when Gifford or Shady Acres are occupied (probably too early for them). Can stay discretely on the dirt road at the top of Wild Wind Hollow, which is .1 miles north of where Birch Hollow crosses the road. Late arrival / early start / discretion recommended.

    Tom
  4. Christian

    Christian Guest

    Mighty one? Don't you mean hefty one or maybe good looking one?

    Yeah, we got there late around 11. Didn't seem to be anybody around so we did a low profile deal in the bushes. We were up and packed by 7 that morning. Stayed in a little area outisde of the new barb wire fences. Agree that if there had been anybody at the south ranch this would not have been possible.

    --- In Yahoo Canyons Group, "Tom Jones" <ratagonia@...> wrote:
    --- In Yahoo Canyons Group, "Christian" <nelsonccc@> wrote:

    We headed up Friday night to hit Englestead on Saturday the 19th.
    The North Fork Road was completely dry except for a small puddle at
    the cattle guard about 2 miles past the pavement. We spent the night
    at the old logging road between the two ranches described in Tom's
    description.
    Thanks for the TR, oh mighty one. Good job on the re-load!
    Best not to stay THERE, which is fairly obvious when Gifford or Shady > Acres are occupied (probably too early for them). Can stay discretely > on the dirt road at the top of Wild Wind Hollow, which is .1 miles > north of where Birch Hollow crosses the road. Late arrival / early > start / discretion recommended.
    Tom >
  5. Tom Jones

    Tom Jones Guest

    --- In Yahoo Canyons Group, "Christian" <nelsonccc@...> wrote:
    Mighty one? Don't you mean hefty one or maybe good looking one? >

    Mighty has many possible meanings. ;-)

    T
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