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  1. mike_dallin

    mike_dallin Guest

    Hi everyone, a short trip report for Booth Creek near Vail, CO:

    Left Boulder at 7:00am, joined by Mark Chapin, John Hart, Charly Oliver and Dave Pitney. The internet water gauge said the flow was a paltry 1.3cfs, but the gauge is wrong... it was more like 3-4cfs. Good for us - while still low, it certainly made it more interesting.

    We hiked the two miles in to the top of Booth Creek Falls, then continued 10 minutes further up the trail to a talus slope. We descended to the stream and donned wetsuits. The easy-looking upper gorge turned out to have a nice, short rappel in it (12 feet or so). Charly used his omni-sling on a tree. The landing was waste deep and coooold! Several short waterfalls in the upper "warm up" gorge were easily downclimbed, though would be a little more serious in higher water.

    We then arrived at the top of Booth Creek Falls. Charly anchored to a large log and lowered me down the frigid waterfall (most of us, in shorties, were caught unaware. But I swear this thing generates its own weather. Expect cold, wind and rockfall). The pool at the base was a short swimmer. The rappel measured 110 feet from the lip, and Charly had to tie off a throwbag cord to the rope as a retrieval cord. The icy dunking at the end was rather unpleasant, and to top it off, the rope stuck half way up the falls when pulled. Charly climbed a sketchy loose gully and managed to free it. A few minutes later, through short but pretty narrows, we arrived at the second falls - a 2 tiered drop almost as high as the last one. After anchor discussion we slung a tree, bypassed the first tier and went straight down the second (over an abrasive lip), for a total rappel of 100 feet from the lip, and into waste deep water. Mark Chapin gallantly led the way on his first lower through a waterfall. We hope to return someday and find a way to rappel both tiers. The chasm at the base of the falls is a site that every canyoneer should see - undercut in spots, lush, and with a wild waterfall overhead. Beautiful!

    A short downclimb (thanks to low water) brought us to the final drop, a 20foot rappel off of a flake, into a waste deep pothole. John took the lower-ee honors on this one. Mark found another pothole, just 2 feet across, that was also waste deep. Then the adventure ended - Pitney retrieved the webbing at the 110ft drop, I retrieved it at the 100 foot drop (so no webbing was left behind). After the hike out and drive through traditional weekend I70 traffic jams we were home by 5-ish.

    Some thoughts:

    - Gauge is on the low side, best to also check the flow from the trailhead. - Four rappels to 110', more if the water level is higher - Full wetsuits recommended minimum - Watch for slick (and thick) moss in the waterfalls - Expect a hydraulic at the end of the 110' drop in all but the lowest water levels - Always always always have someone go back and remove the webbing atop the 110' drop. This is a popular hiker destination and the hike back up is short, so let's keep it clean. - Easily done as a day trip from Denver - Anyone interested in canyoning in Colorado should put this one high on their to-do list! - Pictures:

    This weekend:

    http://estes.on-line.com/rmnp/pics/2002/07282002.html

    Some scouting trips, with a water level much too high to descend safely:

    http://estes.on-line.com/rmnp/pics/2002/05112002.html http://estes.on-line.com/rmnp/pics/2002/05192002.html

    Mike dallin@on-line.com
  2. > Some scouting trips, with a water level much too high to descend > safely:

    Looks like a great trip! What would you estimate the cfs were on your scouting trips?
  3. ratagonia

    ratagonia Guest

    Any reason to NOT use the Omni sling, and avoid having to fetch the webbing (on those many *waste-deep* sections)?

    Tom



    --- In canyons@y..., "mike_dallin" <dallin@o...> wrote: > Hi everyone, a short trip report for Booth Creek near Vail, CO:
    Left Boulder at 7:00am, joined by Mark Chapin, John Hart, Charly > Oliver and Dave Pitney. The internet water gauge said the flow was a > paltry 1.3cfs, but the gauge is wrong... it was more like 3-4cfs. > Good for us - while still low, it certainly made it more interesting.
    We hiked the two miles in to the top of Booth Creek Falls, then > continued 10 minutes further up the trail to a talus slope. We > descended to the stream and donned wetsuits. The easy-looking upper > gorge turned out to have a nice, short rappel in it (12 feet or so). > Charly used his omni-sling on a tree. The landing was waste deep and > coooold! Several short waterfalls in the upper "warm up" gorge were > easily downclimbed, though would be a little more serious in higher > water.
    We then arrived at the top of Booth Creek Falls. Charly anchored to > a large log and lowered me down the frigid waterfall (most of us, in > shorties, were caught unaware. But I swear this thing generates its > own weather. Expect cold, wind and rockfall). The pool at the base > was a short swimmer. The rappel measured 110 feet from the lip, and > Charly had to tie off a throwbag cord to the rope as a retrieval > cord. The icy dunking at the end was rather unpleasant, and to top > it off, the rope stuck half way up the falls when pulled. Charly > climbed a sketchy loose gully and managed to free it. A few minutes > later, through short but pretty narrows, we arrived at the second > falls - a 2 tiered drop almost as high as the last one. After anchor > discussion we slung a tree, bypassed the first tier and went straight > down the second (over an abrasive lip), for a total rappel of 100 > feet from the lip, and into waste deep water. Mark Chapin gallantly > led the way on his first lower through a waterfall. We hope to > return someday and find a way to rappel both tiers. The chasm at the > base of the falls is a site that every canyoneer should see - > undercut in spots, lush, and with a wild waterfall overhead. > Beautiful!
    A short downclimb (thanks to low water) brought us to the final drop, > a 20foot rappel off of a flake, into a waste deep pothole. John took > the lower-ee honors on this one. Mark found another pothole, just 2 > feet across, that was also waste deep. Then the adventure ended - > Pitney retrieved the webbing at the 110ft drop, I retrieved it at the > 100 foot drop (so no webbing was left behind). After the hike out > and drive through traditional weekend I70 traffic jams we were home > by 5-ish.
    Some thoughts:
    - Gauge is on the low side, best to also check the flow from the > trailhead. > - Four rappels to 110', more if the water level is higher > - Full wetsuits recommended minimum > - Watch for slick (and thick) moss in the waterfalls > - Expect a hydraulic at the end of the 110' drop in all but the > lowest water levels > - Always always always have someone go back and remove the webbing > atop the 110' drop. This is a popular hiker destination and the hike > back up is short, so let's keep it clean. > - Easily done as a day trip from Denver > - Anyone interested in canyoning in Colorado should put this one high > on their to-do list! > - Pictures:
    This weekend:
    http://estes.on-line.com/rmnp/pics/2002/07282002.html
    > Some scouting trips, with a water level much too high to descend > safely:
    http://estes.on-line.com/rmnp/pics/2002/05112002.html
    http://estes.on-line.com/rmnp/pics/2002/05192002.html

    Mike > dallin@o...
  4. mike_dallin

    mike_dallin Guest

    --- In canyons@y..., "mike_offerman" <mofferman@b...> wrote:
    > Some scouting trips, with a water level much too high to descend
    safely:
    > Looks like a great trip! What would you estimate the cfs were on > your scouting trips?

    The first scouting trip was around 25-30cfs (possibly doable but you'd better be an expert), the second around 50-60cfs (instant death).

    And yes, my bad with the wasted spell checker...

    Mike dallin@on-line.com
  5. mike_dallin

    mike_dallin Guest

    --- In canyons@y..., "ratagonia" <tom@j...> wrote: > Any reason to NOT use the Omni sling, and avoid having to fetch the > webbing (on those many *waste-deep* sections)?
    Tom

    I'm no omni-sling expert, but the two big drops with webbing left behind did not have clean pulls (anchors were not close to the edge with brush and rocks in the way). Omni sling could easily get stuck or knock loose rocks down on us when pulled. Better to use webbing extended to the edge.

    Mike dallin@on-line.com
  6. None really. The big falls may have had some retrieval issues (anchor back from the edge) but it was so easy to just walk around we did it that way.

    Charly -----Original Message----- From: ratagonia [mailto:tom@jrat.com] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 10:03 AM To: Yahoo Canyons Group Subject: [from Canyons Group] Re: TR: Booth Creek

    Any reason to NOT use the Omni sling, and avoid having to fetch the webbing (on those many *waste-deep* sections)?

    Tom



    --- In canyons@y..., "mike_dallin" <dallin@o...> wrote: > Hi everyone, a short trip report for Booth Creek near Vail, CO: > > Left Boulder at 7:00am, joined by Mark Chapin, John Hart, Charly > Oliver and Dave Pitney. The internet water gauge said the flow was a > paltry 1.3cfs, but the gauge is wrong... it was more like 3-4cfs. > Good for us - while still low, it certainly made it more interesting. > > We hiked the two miles in to the top of Booth Creek Falls, then > continued 10 minutes further up the trail to a talus slope. We > descended to the stream and donned wetsuits. The easy-looking upper > gorge turned out to have a nice, short rappel in it (12 feet or so). > Charly used his omni-sling on a tree. The landing was waste deep and > coooold! Several short waterfalls in the upper "warm up" gorge were > easily downclimbed, though would be a little more serious in higher > water. > > We then arrived at the top of Booth Creek Falls. Charly anchored to > a large log and lowered me down the frigid waterfall (most of us, in > shorties, were caught unaware. But I swear this thing generates its > own weather. Expect cold, wind and rockfall). The pool at the base > was a short swimmer. The rappel measured 110 feet from the lip, and > Charly had to tie off a throwbag cord to the rope as a retrieval > cord. The icy dunking at the end was rather unpleasant, and to top > it off, the rope stuck half way up the falls when pulled. Charly > climbed a sketchy loose gully and managed to free it. A few minutes > later, through short but pretty narrows, we arrived at the second > falls - a 2 tiered drop almost as high as the last one. After anchor > discussion we slung a tree, bypassed the first tier and went straight > down the second (over an abrasive lip), for a total rappel of 100 > feet from the lip, and into waste deep water. Mark Chapin gallantly > led the way on his first lower through a waterfall. We hope to > return someday and find a way to rappel both tiers. The chasm at the > base of the falls is a site that every canyoneer should see - > undercut in spots, lush, and with a wild waterfall overhead. > Beautiful! > > A short downclimb (thanks to low water) brought us to the final drop, > a 20foot rappel off of a flake, into a waste deep pothole. John took > the lower-ee honors on this one. Mark found another pothole, just 2 > feet across, that was also waste deep. Then the adventure ended - > Pitney retrieved the webbing at the 110ft drop, I retrieved it at the > 100 foot drop (so no webbing was left behind). After the hike out > and drive through traditional weekend I70 traffic jams we were home > by 5-ish. > > Some thoughts: > > - Gauge is on the low side, best to also check the flow from the > trailhead. > - Four rappels to 110', more if the water level is higher > - Full wetsuits recommended minimum > - Watch for slick (and thick) moss in the waterfalls > - Expect a hydraulic at the end of the 110' drop in all but the > lowest water levels > - Always always always have someone go back and remove the webbing > atop the 110' drop. This is a popular hiker destination and the hike > back up is short, so let's keep it clean. > - Easily done as a day trip from Denver > - Anyone interested in canyoning in Colorado should put this one high > on their to-do list! > - Pictures: > > This weekend: > > http://estes.on-line.com/rmnp/pics/2002/07282002.html > > Some scouting trips, with a water level much too high to descend > safely: > > http://estes.on-line.com/rmnp/pics/2002/05112002.html > http://estes.on-line.com/rmnp/pics/2002/05192002.html > > > Mike > dallin@o...

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