From a fellow canyoneer: "The bolt I was talking about was not the hangers. I agree that several hangers were loose but not that big of a deal to me. Then again I am just starting out so I would never say that to someone. I have a pretty heavy duty knife that I used the handle to hammer the bolt back in as it was sticking out about a half inch and the stud was loose not the hanger. I wish I took photos but my phone got wet and had some condensation behind the camera lens but it was not the hangers. I asked another person that was in our group and he said yes it was pine creek. I know it was not at the first few rappels but it was for sure not the last, that’s is why I said somewhere in the middle. Definitely not the first rappel, log or the cathedral. I said two bolts but for sure the right bolt as it was coming out. The other bolt could have been just a loose hanger but there was one coming out for sure. With the glue in bolt, we did key hole the same day so I’m not completely sure on it, that is probably key hole but I was able to twist it back and forth about 1/4” both ways." Comments?