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Discussion in 'Archives - Yahoo Canyons Group' started by Shane B., May 10, 2001.

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    Timpanogos Emergency Response Team (TERT) http://www.tert.org/ was looking for volunteer's recently.

    Shane Burrows

    ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Raver v-2crave@mssupport.microsoft.com> To: <Yahoo Canyons Group> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 2:25 PM Subject: RE: [canyons group] Re: ACA Rescue Insurance??


    Any body here on the Wasatch county Search and Rescue team, I have some > questions about volunteering.
    > -----Original Message----- > From: Dean Kurtz [mailto:dkurtz@xpressweb.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 2:14 PM > To: Yahoo Canyons Group
    Subject: Re: [canyons group] Re: ACA Rescue Insurance??
    > I agree with you, Dave, and our extrication and EMS systems in Kane County > do charge for their services. SAR, on the other hand, well, we have been > known to charge for rescue based on some of the same situations you are > referring to. We recently had a search for a woman who just got angry at > her husband and took off walking. Didn't find her until 24 hrs later. We > used planes, county and city law enforcement, county SAR, and Classic > Lifeguard Helicopter. You better believe she received the bill when we > found out why she was missing.
    Dean
    > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "llana kanka" icegydbuk@yahoo.com
    To: <Yahoo Canyons Group
    Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 2:07 PM > Subject: Re: [canyons group] Re: ACA Rescue Insurance??


    Been a rescuer for a couple of decades now, full time
    and volunteer. However you look at it, certain groups
    tax the system more than their share. And contrary to
    what everyone is saying here...yes you do pay for it.
    A lot of full-time rescue services are also patient
    transport and care providers, and many of them will
    charge you an extrication fee if they have to
    extricate AND transport you to the hospital. I know
    that because I ran two county 911 EMS systems that did
    just that. I got no greater enjoyment than sticking a
    drunk driver with a extrication fee. Whether the U.S.
    system ever recovers that fee is another story,
    because people have the attitude that it should all be
    free. I've also worked in Middle East systems where
    you pay for it, period, no questions asked, or you go
    to jail.

    If it's beyond a person's control (e.g. the elderly or
    other groups with high response requirements due to
    their health or living environment) they should get it
    without having to worry about it. If it's a vagrant
    who chronically fakes heart attacks so he can get a
    warm bed and free meals in in a hospital for a few
    days instead of going to the shelter, I think he
    should pay for it in whatever way he can (if not
    through fines, then public service, etc). The same
    goes for an adrenaline-junkie who puts rescuers at
    risk and consumes their time and resources. Rescue of
    any kind is not free. We all pay for it with our
    taxes. The expensive extrication gear on a rescue rig
    doesn't just appear magically, put their by the rescue
    fairy. If I consistently put myself on the far edge of
    what the average person considers a reasonable risk,
    then I should have to pay for it if it goes bad. It
    doesn't mean I don't have the right to be rescued. It
    only means that I have the responsibility to support
    the system.

    Rescue services have their hands tied in this country.
    Damned if you do, damned if you don't (or rather sued
    if you do or don't). That's the real reason most of
    them don't try to charge...public opinion and fear of
    lawsuits.



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