Our previous trip down Imlay (Full Imlay) was a decade before when we were far less experienced. We were lucky to hit iit n completely tippy-top full conditions and swam across every single pothole. It still took us from the middle of the night to about 5 pm. I thoroughly enjoyed it but just hadn't been back because, well, permits and crowds: the same reason many of us avoid Zion canyons these days. I decided that when I did it again I'd do the Sneak version. Not only do you save doing that terrible shuttle, but you can carry shorter ropes and skip 20 rappels and what is frankly a lot of "nuisance" canyon that forces you to rush through the really good stuff at the end of the day when you're tired. This was going to be a "wives and kids" trip, so we were two 14 year old boys, and the rest of us in our late 40s and early 50s. Not exactly the strongest group that ever went into Imlay. But certainly a group we felt good about. Our wives have done dozens of canyons (including plenty of 4B ones) and the kids have done 5-10 as well (including some pothole canyons for one of them.) 3:30 am wake up got us to the Grotto by just after 4. The other party doing Imlay that day had pulled in just before us and were loading their packs by headlamp. It was a father, a son, and his friend, all from the Salt Lake Valley. It was apparently going to be family day in Imlay. They looked pretty fit and left 5 minutes before us. We figured we'd never see them again. Lo and behold we were going to spend a good chunk of the day together. And that's a good thing. They got off course twice on the approach so we leap frogged back and forth for four hours as we worked our way over the "two passes" and into the canyon. You really do feel like you're sneaking around on that approach, but by just after 8 am, both parties arrived in the canyon together. We stopped to suit up before them, but a few minutes later passed them while suiting up. We had twice as many people (including two kids) but we move pretty efficiently through canyons thanks to bringing lots of ropes (we took 5 between 75 feet and 120 feet along with 4 potshots). This time we left the hooks we took the first time through Imlay after being assured by someone we trusted they were not needed at any water level. More on that later.