I'm sorry for posting yet another tell-me-where-to-go post. I've done plenty of research, but my wife and I recently got sandbagged pretty badly taking some ropewiki beta at face value, and we'd like some up to date, contextual recommendations for a trip we have coming up in a few weeks. Thanks in advance to any who contribute. We've been doing permitted canyons in Zion for the last four years and are comfortable with the beginner / intermediate stuff in the park (Keyhole, Pine Creek, Mystery, Behunin, etc.). We're planning to revisit the park over the week of Sept 14th with a couple of friends who are experienced climbers, but who have only done a handful of canyons with us before. We will have two cars, one of which has 4WD and decent, albeit factory stock ground clearance (Ford Explorer). Since the park service isn't issuing permits for the in-bounds options, we're looking to the fringes - mostly 3*III kind of things or shorter. My short list (and concerns) are as follows. Birch Hollow - Done it before. Easy approach. Easy exit. My only concern is that we can't make a full week of entertaining canyoning on just Birch Boundary - Looks great! MIA exit looks heinous enough to spoil the experience, especially for our guests Pipe Spring - See above. Worried about MIA exit Fat Man's Misery - 3 to 4 hour sun exposed exit hike including ascending steep gullies has us extremely gun shy due to recent misadventures in getting sandbagged RE: painful exits Deadeye Dick - Worried about the approach. We're fine with Mystery's Death Gully type action, just don't want anything to do with steep, rough uphilling and extensive bushwhacking Walker Gulch - Worried about driving to the lower trailhead or the climbing required to exit back out to the upper trailhead That's my list so far. Please help me out with evaluating my concerns, advice for selecting which canyons to explore and tips for same, and let me know if you have recommendations beyond the canyons on my short list above.