So I am heading back to Zion again in early October and I am looking for some suggestions on canyons we haven't done before. I have done: Birch Spry (twice - favorite canyon) Deadeye Dick (& mighty mouse) Behunin Telephone Pipe Spring I am not interested in the subway, pine creek, or keyhole. We enjoy full days with lots of rappels where you don't absolutely NEED a wetsuit. I will try last minute lottery for mystery again but last time I didn't get permits all 3 days I tried sooo not going to count on it. I was thinking this time one of the canyons we do I will try to exit down orderville and the narrows because in the past (birch hollow & deadeye) we always went UP orderville to make it a loop route. Would checkerboard be a good canyon to exit down orderville to the narrows? Or would you recommend something like Englestad for that? Also any opinions on boundary, icebox, and hidden canyons? Just looking for suggestions, opinions, possible canyons I haven't looked into etc. Thanks for any advice!