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Tech Tip: Question Potshot Rigging

Discussion in 'Tech Tips and Gear' started by dweaver2130, Nov 13, 2013.

  1. dweaver2130

    dweaver2130 Canyoneering Duo from AZ

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    I remember seeing a thread about rigging and stacking potshots that had some good examples of the process, but I am having trouble finding the thread now. Does anyone still have the examples or know of a link?

    Also, does anyone know one place or another down here in the good old AZ that does Advanced Canyoneering training?
  2. ratagonia

    ratagonia

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    We found stacking potshots to be very precarious - the "sweet spot", enough to hold, but not so much as to make the pull really hard, is unacceptably small. The SandTrap is sooooooooo much better. Easier to use, BIG sweet spot, more fun for the entire group.

    Some will be available soon, sewn in lovely Winslow Arizona.

    Tom
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    Bootboy Atwood Gear

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    I assume you're referring to stacking potshots for the purpose of rappelling, correct?
  4. Bootboy

    Bootboy Atwood Gear

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    Are you going on a sewing retreat?
  5. dweaver2130

    dweaver2130 Canyoneering Duo from AZ

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    Yes, just wanted to get the basic idea as a plan b to sand trapping
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    PG Rob

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  7. Ram

    Ram

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    While there are people who have become quite good with stacked potshots, I strongly endorse what Tom said about the "sweet spot" for potshots to be much smaller/narrower than with the sandtrap
    (sweet spot is the margin between what will hold hold someone on rappel and what is possible to pull)

    this from Tom on this page
    http://www.canyoneeringusa.com/rave/0512freeze/index1a.htm
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  8. dweaver2130

    dweaver2130 Canyoneering Duo from AZ

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    Awesome info, thank you guys. We have been working through this on the white board at work, but unsure of our ideas.

    Ram in that drawing is the orange bag the bag stacked on the bottom of the pile or the top of the pile.

    We had figured to block to the bottom shot and rig the top shot to pull first.

    We totally agree that the sandtrap is a much better option, but we are just looking to expand the toolbox for the just in case and gee whiz aspects.

    We will be planning our next adventure in our garage at work to experiment, I'll post photos from our adventure!
  9. ratagonia

    ratagonia

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    The Orange is on top, as it is removed first. Not the best illustration, though colorful. Notice that each of the bags is on a rapide on the rappel line. This proved to make the removal of the bags not so good. This created a huge tangle. Better to maybe only hard clip the bottom two bags, then stack other bags "free" on top of those and pull them off with the chained retrieval cord and let them fall. But even better, use a SandTrap.

    Tom
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  11. Mountaineer

    Mountaineer Is that an X slot?

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    Now set it up so you can keep your sand for the next drop (because there is no more sand lower down)... :)
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