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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by ratagonia, Jan 11, 2016.
A little tough to follow @Bill on this thread, but here goes - some canyon glow:
Yup. But you did good. Love that first one... except for the rope grooves. We had talked about putting a bolt anchor in there to prevent / diminish those rope grooves, but never quite decided it would be a good idea, especially since the canyon is otherwise bolt-free. Even with the webbing extended and the rodeo start for the last person, the motion of the webbing produces grooves...
Yes, for sure worse than on my last visit in 2013. As you say, any natural anchor rigging in this spot is going to lead to some rock damage, although I would say the vast majority of what you see in that photo is from standard technique rope pulls using an anchor that is not extended enough. We rigged with a toggle using the anchor as is - yes with webbing/rope stretch there is slight rubbing of the rope on rock during rappel, and on pull, the pull cord under tension against the rock for about 2-3 inches or so of pull. Perhaps the only way to 100% mitigate sans bolts would be to carry some kind of rock-protecting tarp piece that could be leashed to the hot side of the rope, just above the stone knot, and placed between the rock and rap line / pull. And such a technique couldn't be used many places due to risk of the "tarp" catching on some obstruction while retrieving everything. Unfortunately, I think this is what we are going to see at all challenging anchor / rap starts, in popular canyons (Pandora's is one of the best in CARE, so I imagine it sees regular traffic).
Sadly, this feral jackass did not complete his final descent of Hyde Draw.
Isn’t it weird that we’re made out of meat?
Uh, thanks. I guess.
Maybe there should be a separate thread for dead animals pictures.
Tom, life presented the opportunity to say ‘feral jackass’, and I took it.
West Clear Creek, Wilbur canyon 6/5/2020
West Clear Creek, Bear Canyon 6/6/2020
West Clear Creek, Sundance Canyon 6/7/2020
Awesome...! Had you left it uncaptioned I'm sure someone would have "ponied" up, so to speak (ha ha).
Are there breeding herds of these feral donkeys? Or, just the random domesticated one that escapes lives a free existance without a tether to an owner?
Interesting question! I, uh, don’t really know how donkey sex works! (Cmon guys, I had to. )
On my approach, I encountered a group of about 10 living ones. (Side note: Shooing away wild donkeys while riding my mountain bike was a singular thrill.)
In canyon, I found a total of three dead ones.
Whether or not that constitutes a breeding herd... I don’t know!
As much as I've been enlightened from the discussion of the dead feral donkey, maybe a change to the living is in order.
Pictured below is Floyd (the Tree frog, left) and Allie (the Rescuer, right) from this past weekend. Floyd (named by rescuer) was retrieved some 293' below his native habitat (that of a big shady hardwood) without the slightest glimmer of hope to get back there on his own.
Then along comes Allie, naturalist extraordinaire. Upon discovering Floyd in this subterranean prison, packs him away ever so gently and ascends no less than 4 drops to return him safely home. Where he can now croak (no pun intended) with his vociferous amphibian friends.
There are plenty of canyons out there without trying to sniff out the few canyons that are available for guiding.
The history here is that one person's vigorous sniffing out guided canyons and publishing them resulted in seriously impacting our friend's business. I think there are very many published canyons for people to do, and many that are not published also. I consider mucking with someone's livelihood both unnecessary and despicable.
AND this post really ought to be on a separate thread... @Bill
P.S. Thank you for deleting your post @Helo-ops