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News New Canyoneering Shoe - Bestard Wildwater Pro

Discussion in 'Tech Tips and Gear' started by TJ Cottam, Jan 28, 2019.

  1. TJ Cottam

    TJ Cottam Adventure Plus

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    There's a new canyoneering shoe coming this spring from Bestard. They should be here sometime around March. I'm currently taking pre-orders at https://www.adventure.plus/shop/Canyoneering/Footwear/p/Wildwater-Pro-x36391185.htm

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    Bestard Wildwater Pro
    As its name suggests, the Bestard Wildwater Pro is a new boot for all you're adventures in and around the water. Canyoneering, rafting, kayaking, caving, whatever it may be, this boot is up for the challenge.

    With this new addition to the Hidroline family, Bestard now offers the widest range of canyoning footwear anywhere.

    Features
    H20 Microtech and Cordura, materials used with great success in terms of wear resistance in the Canyon Guide

    Neck in neoprene and Cordura, for an excellent combination of comfort, softness, support, and durability

    Rubber toe glued without seams

    Stainless steel metal parts for better resistance to salt water ⦁All hooks are closed to prevent snagging

    Reflective heel for better visibility in the dark

    Secure tying system, with lace lock and tongue pocket to store the knot

    Sole Vibram Best Idrogrip + EVA Sole

    Poron mounted jig for more comfort and cushioning. It also allows to use the boot to be worn with the anatomical insole and normal socks for the approach, and then you can remove the insole when you reach the water to allow room for thicker neoprene socks while still maintaining a good level of cushioning.
  2. townsend

    townsend

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    TJ, I like the design of that shoe more than the older version. Thanks for posting.
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  3. hank moon

    hank moon kinetically bulbous

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    @TJ Cottam looks promising. Did they fix the heel-slip problem inherent in the low-cut model?
  4. TJ Cottam

    TJ Cottam Adventure Plus

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    There is no heel movement in the new model, likely because they lace higher.
  5. bnwilso

    bnwilso

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    I was able to participate in the prototype testing for this boot and for me it turned out to be the best fit and performance of any canyoneering boot I have tried - and I've pretty much tried them all. I can't use the 5-10 Canyoneers because the toe box is too tight for my wider than normal foot. And my heel shape is problematic in the high top Bestard Canyon Guide boots - any lengthy hike and I end up with rubbing and blisters on the back of the heel.

    The toe box and heel area in the Wildwater were perfect for my feet. I wore them without any rubbing or blisters right out of the box and put a ton of miles on them. They are extremely durable, drainage is excellent and so is the traction. Of course all feet are different, but these are really worth checking out if you've experienced some of the difficulties I mentioned having with other boots.

    Bruce
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  6. Mountaineer

    Mountaineer Is that an X slot?

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    TJ - Any update on firming up when in March?

    And how about sizing, are they similar to the high top Bestard Canyon Guide?
  7. TJ Cottam

    TJ Cottam Adventure Plus

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    I should have the first pairs in about a week. I'll test out the sizing when they get here.
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  8. TJ Cottam

    TJ Cottam Adventure Plus

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    The new boots are finally here. After comparing the sizing side by side the the Bestard Canyon Guide I would say they fit just slightly smaller than the Canyon Guide (I would say it's maybe 1/4 size different) with noticeably less volume in the front of the foot. The size difference isn't enough to change the shoe size. They are made to fit well with regular socks, for thicker neo socks the insole is supposed to be removed. They added an additional layer of padding under the insole to keep them comfortable when the insole is out.
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  9. JakeH

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    Hey @TJ Cottam ,
    What's the verdict on these shoes? How have you liked them?
  10. Modifier

    Modifier

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    As someone who avoids the 5-10 Canyoneers because they fit poorly on my narrow foot, I assume I would be even less happy with these?
  11. TJ Cottam

    TJ Cottam Adventure Plus

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    They have been great. Being lower volume than the Canyon Guide they fit a lot better on approach with a regular hiking sock but still fit great with neo when you remove the insole. They are less breathable than the original canyon guide but are more durable and protective on the side of the shoe. Being a mid height they actually still have great ankle support too.

    @Modifier I don't have a wide foot and they fit me great. There is a lot of adjustment in the laces.
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  12. JakeH

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    How do they compare to the 5.10 canyoneers and Terrex Hydro Lace shoes?
  13. Mats Lindholm

    Mats Lindholm

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    Hello,

    I work at Bestard in Spain, and as TJ says regarding sizing, the idea with the Wildwater Pro is to offer a boot with "two sizes in one":

    1: With the footbed in place, the size is like that of a "normal" hiking boot, ideally for doing hiking/approach wearing normal socks.

    2. Removing the footbed, you'll get about one size bigger, for using the boot with thicker neoprene socks. In this mode, the size is similar to that of the Canyon Guide.

    The boot is fitted with a fix Poron footbed, so there is plenty of cushioning at the complete footplant also without the removable footbed.

    Many thanks for your interest!

    Kind regards
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    Thanks Mats!
  15. Mountaineer

    Mountaineer Is that an X slot?

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    I got these from TJ a few weeks back, and it has been fantastic. Best canyon shoe so far.
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  16. Mats Lindholm

    Mats Lindholm

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    many thanks for your kind comment Mountaineer! Very happy to hear you like the shoes.. makes our day-to-day work worthwile! ;-)
    Take care and stay healthy!
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