Hi. I'm looking for gear recommendations for a couple canyoneering trips this summer/fall. (I've searched and read on most threads on rope selection.) Specifically, we're looking do some but not all of the following technical Utah canyons: Goblin's Lair, Angel Point, Stegosaurus, Na-Gah (if reopened by October), Egypt 1, Mystery, Pine Creek, Subway, Behunin, Spry, Birch Hollow, and Orderville. We're also planning a one or two routes in Yosemite this summer, one of which would require a 210' rope. About us: Me (180 lbs. or less), my wife (I've never asked, but less than 120 lbs.), my 14-year-old daughter (~95 lbs.), and my 11-year old son (~85 lbs.). We live above Lake Tahoe, where we are very active in standard mountain sports, including ski mountaineering and rock climbing. From climbing and ski-mountaineering, I'm relatively competent with general rope work and hauling. (FWIW, I know there are critical differences between climbing and canyoneering and am dong my best to educate myself.) The kids are tough little shits, whose ability to endure and enjoy adult-level sufferfests shouldn't be underestimated. The wife is a notch below them, but still strong enough. We dipped our collective toes in canyoneering last fall. Since then, I've taken a canyoneering course and done some more easy canyons. I see us as continuing canyoneering each year, mostly focusing on southern Utah. It's possible we might check out canyons near Vegas, Death Valley, or the Sierra in the future, but who knows. Given our location, we have limited access to great canyoneering, so it's not something we're likely to much more than semi-annually, particularly in the winter and spring, when the skiing is good. Last, I have money-draining children and money-draining hobbies, so money is a strong factor. Current gear: I've got trad climbing gear, including a newish 70m rope, a well-used but still functionable 60m rope, and a 30m glacier rope (8.4mm, dry-treated, dynamic). I have an ATS and I just bought 3 Piranas for the wife and kids in the REI sale for $30/each. We also have ATC devices, PASs, ascenders, a figure 8, etc. and safety gear such as two-way radios and a PLB. We have a couple dry bags. So . . . gear advice? (1) Rope: I think I'd like a dedicated canyoneering rope of 210'-220' long, rather than torturing my climbing ropes again. In that vein, I was thinking of picking up a Canyon Fire of that length (~$180-200) as well as a corresponding Imlay 6mm pull cord (~$90). An alternative to the Canyon Fire would be to pick up a 92m Sterling Canyon Prime (currently on sale for $187) and cut it into 65m and a 27m lengths, so that I have two ropes. I've also seen affordable versions (~$140) of the ~200' versions of the Edelweiss Canyon and Blue Water Canyonator. (2) Rope bag: It seems like something we could probably do without (like we've done before), but it'd also be very useful, particularly if we we're using a ~200' rope as our primary rope. Imlay's medium Silo ($80), Sterling's Blitz ($67), On Rope Descent Bag ($65) all look fine. I'm not inclined to buy a dedicated pull-cord bag at this time. (3) Wetsuits: Wetsuits are recommended for at least four Utah canyons we'd like to do (Mystery, Pine Creek, Subway, and Orderville) in and may be useful in Yosemite as well. But, needless to say, buying four wetsuits at once is expensive, particularly where the 11-year old will outgrow his within a year. And renting is inconvenient and not necessarily cheap. One approach would to maybe buy decent 4:3 suits for myself and the missus (e.g., Hyperflex) since we could use them for the next decade. And perhaps we could buy either used suits (hard to find IME) or cheapo (~$40) 3mm suits for the kids (which could be used with in conjunction with capillene/merino base layers) while they're still growing. We did Keyhole with rented wetsuits last October. They were nice for one particular spot where it was maybe 4' deep, but we would have been okay without them overall. Of course, it was a very short canyon. (4) Other stuff: I feel like I can make do with my other gear. I know how to use and have practiced a little with a fiddlestick, but it seems better to keep it simple for now. Any advice would be appreciated. Alternatively, estimations on how quickly I'm likely to misguidedly kill myself and my family are also welcome.