(from Ram) --- In Yahoo Canyons Group, "RAM" <adkramoo@> wrote: An annual rite. I dig this old post out and put it out there. Its five years old now and lots of new ideas and methods have grown up, along with the attendance at the fest. I am still swamped work wise, so I'm not really looking it over. Hopefully all the FreezeFest veterans will amend and add all that has been learned. I'll review and comment when I get the chance. Here a few of the things I have learned..... 1-A super warm sleeping bag is heavenly 2-A back up bag, squeezed under a seat in the car, gives piece of mind and doesn't take up much room 3-Three foam pads is mighty comfortable and warm 4-A 60 gallon trash liner, to keep personal gear frost free and dry, next to your sleeping arrangements, works well 5-More 60 gallon, heavy duty liners, for wet gear. Can't bring too many. 6-Lots of firewood, for those endless evening hours. 7-Interesting companions, with the gift of gab. A must 8-Spirits, for the illusion of warmth and the illusion of the gift of gab. 9-Dehydration at bedtime. That 3AM pee is worth avoiding. Hydrate in the AM 10-Layers of clothing, for the campsite. If you don't feel like the Michelin Man or a blow up doll, put on some more clothes 11-Hot breakfasts. 12-Stove, pot, water and matches, right next to your bed. 13-Ten course dinners. Eat all you want, lose weight. A truly effective diet. 14-Package your lunches for every day, at home in the warmth of the house, before the trip. Grab a bag every day, rather than pack up in the cold 15-I have 5 pairs of neo socks. Most of the week is over before a wet one goes on the feet, in the morning 16-A little warm water, from the stove, unfreezes those shoes and is nice and cozy 17-Old, shredded wet suits, make great garb, for MOSTLY dry canyons. The occasional waist deep pool is a non issue, the system is warm and it is great body armor in the tight world of many a canyon. 18-A different dry, shredded wet suit, for the first 3 days, is heaven. By day 4, a suit and some socks have dried. 19-A pair of waterproof, Air Force Mickey Mouse/bunny boots, insulated to -50 below zero for the campsite. If the feet are happy, your happy.... and fashionable too. 20-Cheese, yogurt and fresh fruit need no cooler. Keep them deep enough in the car prevent freezer burn. 21-Haven't discovered at what temperature scotch freezes yet. 22-Extra ground sheets create layering and segregation of wet gear, in the vehicle. Critical! 23-A LARGE community tent, for when the wind blows too hard, for a safe fire 24-Heaters and a generator to warm that big tent 25-It is always comfortable in the canyons proper 26-It is often very uncomfortable on the AM bench land approach to the canyon 27-It's generally not worth carrying extra gear to stay warm that first hour, as it is often not needed the rest of the day 28-Flashlights in the pack, in the sleeping bag, in the car, everywhere! 29-Canyon water can only get so cold and it is never as bad in reality, as the anticipation 30-FreezeFests have lots of return customers. It's getting new folks over their prejudice and out on a trip, that is the hard part. 31-Soccer Mom chairs, for in the big tent or around the fire are worth their weight in gold 32-Cooking tables make excellent wind breaks, when laid on their side. 33-Go ahead, eat some more! 34-The inside of a convenience store feels really weird after 4-5 days of being only outside. 35-Dusty dirt insulates and works as sunscreen 36-Water freezes in canyons, in the open areas next to narrow places and stays liquid in the darkest and narrowest places. 37-All reptiles and FreezeFesters know that there is always a place, often sunny and always out of the wind, to be comfortable in. 38-A mid winter trips helps the sanity between the prime fall and spring seasons 39-Let the beard and hair grow. Shaggy is warmer 40-A January 1st Black Hole is an eloquent way to start the year. 41-FreezeFest partners have a build in "No Whining" filter. They laugh or smile big smiles, all the time and are a joy to be around. 42-When its over, a hot shower, loving wife and 2 pretty cool kids welcome me home.