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Echo pothole

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Scott Patterson, Jun 29, 2016.

  1. Scott Patterson

    Scott Patterson

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    Does anyone know the current condition of the pothole?
  2. Rapterman

    Rapterman

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    Hi Scott
    Week-end before last (June 19) there WAS an escape to be made :).
    Pothole was a full swimmer with no touch down at the exit that we could find.
    The edge of the slot (to pull up out of) was about two feet off the water-
    A really strong climber with no pack on could mantel up then shoulder-flop into the slot and 'whale' (porpoise?)
    over the edge.
    We needed a strong partner assist AND a strong leader to clear the obstacle.
    A short pack-toss could help if you could partner-up enough to manage a 'toss' while swimming.
    Could be even harder now if water levels have dropped.
    Hope that helps
    :D
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  3. Yellow Dart

    Yellow Dart It's only hubris if I fail.

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    Who'd have thought Echo would turn into something difficult...

    Guess I know what I'm doin' tomorrow.
  4. Rapterman

    Rapterman

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    A mostly easy morning in a beautiful canyon with a great group of friends!
    Lots of fun playing with the escape.
    No one suffered, so could be boring for you.
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  5. Yellow Dart

    Yellow Dart It's only hubris if I fail.

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    :rofl:
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  6. ratagonia

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    Perhaps you missed this from 22 days ago:
    "The water continued to be very cold. I had not done this part of Echo in a long time, and it has changed considerably. The little keeper pothole was down a bit, but I had the advantage of a rope hanging from the 2nd rap anchor to pull up on. Rap into the pool, and swim around the corner. Cassy is trying to scramble out of the pothole, and just an inch short of getting a secure knee in the bottom of the crack. The water is cold, and the pool is devoid of places (on the exit end) that are not full swimmer. (in the past, seems like there was more gravel in the bottom, and places to stand not fully swimming). We had almost no gear in our drybags, so they had almost no flotation in them. I tried using Cassy's pack as a foot-boost, and it helped, but not much. I too ended up about 1" short of getting my knee into a good place. Finally, Gordy came over and 'showed us how its done', then hauled me out, then Abby, then Cassy. CHILLY!"

    Echo is deeply entrenched, and holds its water and its cold very, very well. Even in this hot weather, it changes very slowly.

    Tom
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  7. Scott Patterson

    Scott Patterson

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    No; I didn't miss it. My son and I also did the canyon the same time period that you did. I was just wondering if anything had changed since then.

    ?
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  8. gajslk

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    Is it too deep for a fully submerged partner assist? It's hard to imagine. Foot on top of a helmet should buy you six feet.

    Gordon
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  9. ratagonia

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    It is too COLD!!!!
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  10. Rapterman

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    Scott-
    see the Boundary thread for back-story on suffering
    :D
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