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Tech Tip: Question Carabiner wear

Discussion in 'Tech Tips and Gear' started by Mountaineer, Jul 17, 2013.

  1. Mountaineer

    Mountaineer Is that an X slot?

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    So at what point do you retire your carabiner? How much wear? No matter how hard I try to keep my rope clean, it seems I can go through a carabiner and sometimes even a rap device in a trip or two.

    Any tips to keep this stuff around longer?


    IMAG0320.
  2. 2065toyota

    2065toyota

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    Practice good rope care and use rope bags. I got 28 canyons the start of the this year on 1 ATS & 1 Biner. I retired the ATS to a backup but my biner still looks like your one on the left and is still in use. When I used an ATC I burned through the biners, not sure what device you are using, but by the wear marks that's what it looks like
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  3. Mountaineer

    Mountaineer Is that an X slot?

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    Wow, 28. I use rope bags, but seems still tough to keep the sand off.

    Yes, mostly ATC on these.
  4. 2065toyota

    2065toyota

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    The ATS is $40, but you will save more money in biners than that. And I feel you end up with a safer and more versatile device.
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  5. Brian in SLC

    Brian in SLC Brian in SLC

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    My level of wear is about a 1/3 way through the bar stock on a biner, and, when an ATC gets a sharp edge.

    Don't canyon in sandstone sandy canyons especially ones that are sans water...that'll save on wear.

    I think the coating on a rope makes it more prone to having dirt/debris stick to it. So...go uncoated (ie, non dry finish).

    Wash your rope.

    Switch to a steel carabiner. Mind your friction if you do that...
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  6. Mike Zampino

    Mike Zampino Canyon season never ends.

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    How many Keyhole's = 1 Imlay? :p

    (ps - I know you aren't doing 28 keyhole's ;))
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  7. 2065toyota

    2065toyota

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    24 keyholes and 4 Yankees
  8. Erik B.

    Erik B. Thirsty for canyon...

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    OH!!! OH!!! I GOT THIS ONE! Ok...so at sprint pace it took 13 minutes to do keyhole while it took us 10.5 hrs (630 mins) to do Imlay (maybe not quite at sprint pace). 630/13= 48ish

    48 keyholes: 1 Imlay. :) ...since that makes sense...
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  9. ratagonia

    ratagonia

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    Yeah but... gotta take out the approach and exit time. Recalculate = ???

    Tom
  10. 2065toyota

    2065toyota

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    Conditions make a huge difference. Last trip through imlay it was flowing so there was really no gear wear at all.
  11. gajslk

    gajslk

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    Easy, divide the total distance rapped, Imlay/Keyhole. As a reality check, if you downclimb/slide/jump in Keyhole, the ratio goes to infinity, as it should. We're good.

    Gordon
  12. Ram

    Ram

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    After years of disappearing biners, I started keeping the ones half way worn through and used them for biner blocks only and lo and behold, these biners seemed to always come back to me at the end of the day ;)
    There are people who are considered to be experts here who disapprove of this policy and I would not argue with them, in spite of my choice to continue this approach to biner retention. YMMV A LOT! :p
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