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BETA ~ Canyons around Bridges National Monument

Discussion in 'Archives - Yahoo Canyons Group' started by mwlewis26, Mar 25, 2004.

  1. mwlewis26

    mwlewis26 Guest

    I'll be down there the weekend of 4/10-12. I'll have a complete beginner along with me (who's only experience with canyoneering was hiking up Little Wild Horse...) and I'd like to introduce her to an easy technical canyon, maybe one that doesn't have any intricate natural anchors that need set up, and one that doesn't have any hooking problems to exit pot holes. Anything within an hour or two drive from Bridges? Post any beta here, or side band me at: mark at thenaturalist.net

    Many thanks!

    Mark SLC
  2. Fry Canyon (http://climb-utah.com/CM/fry.htm) doesn't get much simpler.

    Many of the Irish Canyons also fit your description.

    Shane Burrows Climb Utah - Canyoneering & Mountaineering http://Climb-Utah.com

    ----- Original Message ----- From: "mwlewis26" mwlewis27@comcast.net> To: <Yahoo Canyons Group> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 12:27 PM Subject: [from Canyons Group] BETA ~ Canyons around Bridges National Monument

    > I'll be down there the weekend of 4/10-12. I'll have a complete > beginner along with me (who's only experience with canyoneering was > hiking up Little Wild Horse...) and I'd like to introduce her to an > easy technical canyon, maybe one that doesn't have any intricate > natural anchors that need set up, and one that doesn't have any > hooking problems to exit pot holes. Anything within an hour or two > drive from Bridges? Post any beta here, or side band me at: mark at > thenaturalist.net
    Many thanks!
    Mark > SLC

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  3. adkramoo

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    --- In Yahoo Canyons Group, "mwlewis26" <mwlewis27@c...> wrote: >. Anything within an hour or two > drive from Bridges? Post any beta here,
    Mark > SLC

    We did Cheesebox last week (Day 6) and all the anchors are set nicely. Wet suit (5mm) and neo socks (3mm) highly recommended. The upper part of the canyon has less water than normal, as there has been sand deposited. Below the confluence is very wet and cold, but short. Looking very pretty right now.

    Ram
  4. mwlewis26

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    Thanks Shane, you're the guru of beta! Wouldn't you think the water too cold at this time of year for the short swims? Or are they near the end of canyon so one could get into the sun after their hypothermic dip?

    --- In Yahoo Canyons Group, "Shane Burrows" <shane@s...> wrote: > Fry Canyon (http://climb-utah.com/CM/fry.htm) doesn't get much simpler.
    Many of the Irish Canyons also fit your description.
    Shane Burrows > Climb Utah - Canyoneering & Mountaineering > http://Climb-Utah.com

    ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mwlewis26" <mwlewis27@c...
    To: <Yahoo Canyons Group
    Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 12:27 PM > Subject: [from Canyons Group] BETA ~ Canyons around Bridges National > Monument

    I'll be down there the weekend of 4/10-12. I'll have a complete
    beginner along with me (who's only experience with canyoneering was
    hiking up Little Wild Horse...) and I'd like to introduce her to an
    easy technical canyon, maybe one that doesn't have any intricate
    natural anchors that need set up, and one that doesn't have any
    hooking problems to exit pot holes. Anything within an hour or two
    drive from Bridges? Post any beta here, or side band me at: mark at
    thenaturalist.net

    Many thanks!

    Mark
    SLC




    When you post, please change the Subject appropriately, to make reading > and searching easier. You can use the following abbreviations: TRIP = Trip > Report; BETA = Canyon Beta; PARTNER = Partner and/or Rides; ETHICS = Ethics; > TECH = Technical Questions and Tips; BIZ = E Group Business; SALE = Stuff > for Sale. Please use a Tilde ~ after the abbreviation, so we know you are > coding for us, such as:

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  5. >>Wouldn't you think the water too cold at this time of year for the short swims? <<

    Fry has only one short swim, in-out get hiking, not to bad. Canyon opens at the exit of the pool and you are in the sun. I was waist deep wading in the area two weeks ago without a wetsuit. It wasn't to bad so long as you didn't spend a bunch of time standing around talking about it. The swim in Fry is at the very end so you can get hiking and get warm after you exit. If your a real stud you rap the first section, stash your rope in your pack, down climb the last section, hike out the end of the pool and don't stop, warm in 5 minutes if the air temp is up.

    The Irish stuff is all dry, maybe a couple of knee deep pools. I hear the same is true of the Maidenwater stuff (that is second hand). Cheese and Gravel you are going to get wet.

    Shane
  6. adkramoo

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    The Irish stuff is all dry, maybe a couple of knee deep pools. I hear the > same is true of the Maidenwater stuff (that is second hand). Cheese and > Gravel you are going to get wet.

    Report from Maidenwater from approx. March 13th has several waist deep pools and a full swimmer at the final 2 potholes. The stuff is mostly stemable, but vigorous. Swims are just before the end, so no big deal. HELP ME! I'M MELTING!!!MELTING...!!!

    RAM
  7. IMO, if you don't want to freeze in Fry skip the water in the upper section by entering the canyon below the bridge and not above. The water at the bottom is also VERY cold but at least it's at the end and you're out after your dip ...

    Neil

    mwlewis26 mwlewis27@comcast.net> wrote: Thanks Shane, you're the guru of beta! Wouldn't you think the water too cold at this time of year for the short swims? Or are they near the end of canyon so one could get into the sun after their hypothermic dip?

    --- In Yahoo Canyons Group, "Shane Burrows" <shane@s...> wrote: > Fry Canyon (http://climb-utah.com/CM/fry.htm) doesn't get much simpler.
    Many of the Irish Canyons also fit your description.
    Shane Burrows > Climb Utah - Canyoneering & Mountaineering > http://Climb-Utah.com

    ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mwlewis26" <mwlewis27@c...
    To: <Yahoo Canyons Group
    Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 12:27 PM > Subject: [from Canyons Group] BETA ~ Canyons around Bridges National > Monument

    I'll be down there the weekend of 4/10-12. I'll have a complete
    beginner along with me (who's only experience with canyoneering was
    hiking up Little Wild Horse...) and I'd like to introduce her to an
    easy technical canyon, maybe one that doesn't have any intricate
    natural anchors that need set up, and one that doesn't have any
    hooking problems to exit pot holes. Anything within an hour or two
    drive from Bridges? Post any beta here, or side band me at: mark at
    thenaturalist.net

    Many thanks!

    Mark
    SLC




    When you post, please change the Subject appropriately, to make reading > and searching easier. You can use the following abbreviations: TRIP = Trip > Report; BETA = Canyon Beta; PARTNER = Partner and/or Rides; ETHICS = Ethics; > TECH = Technical Questions and Tips; BIZ = E Group Business; SALE = Stuff > for Sale. Please use a Tilde ~ after the abbreviation, so we know you are > coding for us, such as:

    Subject: BIZ~ New Abbreviation List - working?

    Bombastic Bolt Debates are allowed to only a limited extent. Folks should > go to the Canyoneer Group for a truly un-moderated forum. > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/canyoneer

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  8. Tom Jones

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    Fry often has swims underneath the bridge, then quite a ways downcanyon at the bottom of the rappel. In both cases, no standing around required afterwards, so can get moving and warm up. A drybag with fleece clothing can be put to good effect, and used as a boogey board to make the swim faster and warmer.

    http://www.canyoneeringusa.com/utah/cedar/fry.htm

    Tom



    --- In Yahoo Canyons Group, "Shane Burrows" <shane@s...> wrote:
    >Wouldn't you think the water too cold at this time of year for the short > swims? <<
    Fry has only one short swim, in-out get hiking, not to bad. Canyon opens at > the exit of the pool and you are in the sun. I was waist deep wading in the > area two weeks ago without a wetsuit. It wasn't to bad so long as you didn't > spend a bunch of time standing around talking about it. The swim in Fry is > at the very end so you can get hiking and get warm after you exit. If your > a real stud you rap the first section, stash your rope in your pack, down > climb the last section, hike out the end of the pool and don't stop, warm in > 5 minutes if the air temp is up.
    The Irish stuff is all dry, maybe a couple of knee deep pools. I hear the > same is true of the Maidenwater stuff (that is second hand). Cheese and > Gravel you are going to get wet.
    Shane
  9. Kris Nosack

    Kris Nosack Guest

    On Thu, 25 Mar 2004, neil wilkinson wrote:
    IMO, if you don't want to freeze in Fry skip the water in the upper > section by entering the canyon below the bridge and not above. The > water at the bottom is also VERY cold but at least it's at the end and > you're out after your dip ...

    I was going to suggest the same thing. I got much colder in the upper part than the lower pool after the rap. And this was with summer air temps. Those upper pools are very cold. We doddled a bit getting through the upper so you could lessen the exposure by moving quick, but you can only go so fast. The upper section has pool after pool (can't remember how many, but it seemed like 10 or more) and each one has slimy mud on the bottom (well it did back, what 4 years ago when i did it). Then you clammour out the other side and slip, slide down into the next pool. Lather, rinse, repeat. Fun little section of pools and narrows, but it is cold. A concrete bridge overhead with cars wizzing by every so often kinda lessens the wilderness experience though. :)

    If you want to enter the canyon below the upper slot, there are several entrance points. Kelsey's book identifies a few.

    I thought the rap into the lower section was fun. When at the top of the rap, don't forget to look across the canyon and spot the cliff dwellings - very cool.

    - Kris Nosack
  10. edwebbe

    edwebbe Guest

    Hello all- I am new to the group. I joined a couple of days ago in hopes that I could get some info on Fry Canyon and the painfully cold swims in there. Let's just say I am not disappointed, and I didn't even have to ask! I am driving over there from Durango tomorrow. If my experience is any different than what has been said I'll let you know. Thanks for the Beta, Durango Ed



    --- In Yahoo Canyons Group, "Tom Jones" <tom@j...> wrote: > Fry often has swims underneath the bridge, then quite a ways > downcanyon at the bottom of the rappel. In both cases, no standing > around required afterwards, so can get moving and warm up. A drybag > with fleece clothing can be put to good effect, and used as a boogey > board to make the swim faster and warmer.
    http://www.canyoneeringusa.com/utah/cedar/fry.htm
    > Tom
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