Did Not-Imlay, one of my new favorites, yesterday. Hot and humid made the approach not so happytime. We have collectively been figuring out the best place for the First Rappel, and I think we finally have it figured out. 1. The "original route" involves a short rappel off a tree to a dirty, brushy, steeply slanted ledge traverse, to a largish tree and a somewhat awkward rappel with a difficult pull. Not so good. 2. I had put a sling on a tree just right of the streamflow, which worked OK, but... hard pull and a 300' rope did not put you on the "ground" but on the higher ledge, that then required a dicey traverse across a dirty, brushy, steeply slanted ledge - but at least without a death-fall below it. 3. Ram had done a trip that used a tree further along the edge of the drop, from which the rope reached the ground. My plan was to use the "further" tree (3). Looking at when actually there, that small tree is not rooted in much of a dirt island. Probably good enough for a couple of rappels, but I think constant use would eventually kill the tree. I did number one (1) the first time down, and it 'was kinda special' - type 4 fun, as in, not fun at all. Which is why we were searching for alternatives. We re-evaluated number (2). I chose the second tree back because... well, probably because the first tree, so solid, had a bunch of gnarly branches that made getting to the trunk unpleasant. I successfully maneuvered Bailey into dealing with this, so "we" put a long, long sling around the lower tree. Our 300' rope just reached the ground from this ring. The pull was still quite hard. Sometimes it takes a couple of trips through a canyon to figure out the optimal place to anchor a rappel. Wise canyoneers can disagree on many things, including where the best location would be. This is one reason that I think publishing beta after going through a canyon ONCE is not a good idea, though this is common practice. Comments? Discussion?